In yesterday’s post I blathered on about how I had redesigned the scroll detail and how it was much better than the original iteration. I went on to post drawings to back up my claims of success. However, Bob Easton called me out on it and explained my shortcomings. Well, at least the ones pertaining to this scroll detail and I very much appreciate that he did.
Too often we simply glad-hand each other. For some, I’m sure that is what they are after. I admit its nice to get an at-a-boy, but we have a huge potential for constructive feedback here on the web. I too, am hesitant to give out constructive criticism. It can be a tricky thing to broach. For the record though, I more than welcome everyone’s opinion. So don’t hold back, just let me have it. Anyway, thanks again to Bob for pushing me to have another go at the scroll detail. My finished project will be much better because of it.
In the first two iterations of this scroll detail admittedly I was trying to draw the scroll through geometric means. Specifically with the use of a compass. While it can be done, the resulting scroll is too, for lack of a better word, clinical. I had developed “tunnel vision” in developing this detail. Focusing on creating the scroll thru rigid mechanical drawing. As Bob pointed out, a pleasing scroll needs to be organic and flowing in its transitions. So, as suggested, I set my compass aside, created a grid matrix and began sketching scrolls freehand. After several attempts I arrived at a scroll that I liked and meets the organic requirement. The latest version shows just how lacking the first two versions actually are and I’m surprised at myself for not seeing the issue before.
Below are versions 1,2 and 3. Night and day difference, IMHO.
I think this latest version will be the final one. Assuming it meets with Bob’s approval of course. LOL. Thanks again Bob! How’d I do on this one?
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Hey Greg I am impressed with the positive response to the challenge put to you from Bob Easton. I am also impressed that Bob put it forward. Such a challenge and response somehow makes this medium seem less artificial. I for one think what you are doing is the genuine article, more so, how you have progressed from the group teaching of Paul Sellers is a wonderful tribute to both your talent and the skill of a masterful communicator. I am also enjoying the Paul Sellers journey, where ever it goes. This blog being a most enjoyable addition to my woodworking education.
Thanks Martin! I learned long ago to be open to the opinions and ideas of others. It’s amazing what you can learn along the way. A lot of things have fell in place for me over the last few years, Paul Sellers instruction being an important one.
Very glad and humbled that you are enjoying my blog.
Subtle changes make a difference. How does it look when mirrored?
There is no doubt about that. A slight change can make all of the difference.
I played around with it and this version mirrors well across both the vertical and horizontal.
NOW you get an “ata boy” Greg.
You’re right. Exchanging constructive criticism can be a delicate dance, and not something I would start with just anyone. Your writing style tells me that you’re quite even handed and would likely not be offended.
The scroll is much nicer now!
LOL, thanks again Bob. I do very much appreciate your input.
Yep, giving criticism is can be a little tricky. Even when it’s directly asked for. I learned this lesson the hard way. Without authentic feedback you begin to work in a bubble and it’s far too easy to stagnate. So I’m always open to other points of view.
A few years ago, I was stranded on a deseert island for a month with no carving tools or wood. Well… it actually was a very beautiful small village on the Pacific coast of Coasta Rica. Instead of carving, I drew acanthus leaves every day. All freehand, no drafting tools. The drafting course I took in college has served incredibly well, but these organic curves defy tools, grids, and geometric construction. Their beauty lies in how the curves start tight and then rapidly decelerate to shallow and then once again accelerate ro tight. I posted a few of the drawings (and looking back see where fine tuning is still needed). See:
Those are quite nice. I told you in a comment on one of your posts that I had trouble with curves. 😉
In my day job I design with AutoCAD and then create all of my woodworking designs on the drafting board. I’ve been drafting more years than not. So I forget that I can just simply pick up a pencil and draw freeform.
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